Hi,
One thing that would be good is a new view of events based on a time line.
Images and alarm events (actually an event) should be shown graphically on a scalable timeline for searching and locating events and images etc.
Anyone got that working or want to see an example?
What do you think?
You can message me and I can provide you with a link to an example...
Regards,
deano
new event browser for users
here is our system - not ZM based but it is on Linux....
Hi,
Have a look at this system under the playback section.
catchcam.commcord.net
Login: teggie
Password: zmuser
Note: do not save the login into your browser as we session encrypt the passwd each login with the current session id and if you save the passwd / login into your browser you will have to re-type it anyway.
Tell me what you think of this method of viewing the historical recorded images.
Regards,
Deano
Have a look at this system under the playback section.
catchcam.commcord.net
Login: teggie
Password: zmuser
Note: do not save the login into your browser as we session encrypt the passwd each login with the current session id and if you save the passwd / login into your browser you will have to re-type it anyway.
Tell me what you think of this method of viewing the historical recorded images.
Regards,
Deano
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I've had a look at the demo but there didn't appear to be any historical data. I assume that's correct and you were just indicating the method. Correct?
Anyway, I've been looking more at a timeline method of accessing the events for a while. Actually drawing the selector isn't the hard part. The hard part is comeing up with an interface that works with all the different ways ZM can be used, so in Modect mode it should just show events, in Record mode allow you to just select a piece of footage (?) and in Mocord mode do both? Also dealing with different resolutions, so if your timeline is say a week, highlighting a 30 second event might be a bit tricky. Finally, the way ZM works in terms of having partitioned events (even in Record mode), might mean that a bit of kludging would have to be done to allow viewing across event boundaries.
I think all these issues can be overcome though, it just needs some time spent on it to decide exactly how to do it. I think ultimately, the Record and Mocord modes will not create events at all, that would be reserved for actual motion etc. The constant record would just be in a background area separate from events altogether, this would fit in better with timelining. It's a big change though and needs a bit of thinking about before I make the jump!
Phil
Anyway, I've been looking more at a timeline method of accessing the events for a while. Actually drawing the selector isn't the hard part. The hard part is comeing up with an interface that works with all the different ways ZM can be used, so in Modect mode it should just show events, in Record mode allow you to just select a piece of footage (?) and in Mocord mode do both? Also dealing with different resolutions, so if your timeline is say a week, highlighting a 30 second event might be a bit tricky. Finally, the way ZM works in terms of having partitioned events (even in Record mode), might mean that a bit of kludging would have to be done to allow viewing across event boundaries.
I think all these issues can be overcome though, it just needs some time spent on it to decide exactly how to do it. I think ultimately, the Record and Mocord modes will not create events at all, that would be reserved for actual motion etc. The constant record would just be in a background area separate from events altogether, this would fit in better with timelining. It's a big change though and needs a bit of thinking about before I make the jump!
Phil
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sounds great (separting record and having seperate events but linked. This would also solve the problem of uploading motion events on systems set to mocord.
One option is the leviathon method that just does modect but u can make it that sensitive that it records all the time. It has a vertical timeline with a variable time, ie select timeline from 01:00 to 01:15 ot 1/1/05 to 15/1/05 etc etc. It then makes the relevant are in the timeline green if there are any events. and obviously clicking the relevant area jumps you to that time and starts playback. Its not perfect (IMHO) cos if you have no detection at that time it just gives a black scree. I woudl prefer a shot taken say every minute then the timleine could select the closest image.
Just an idea hope its understandable.
Just for the record i quite like how it is. its different but you can jump anywhere you want really especialyy if you genertae avideo
One option is the leviathon method that just does modect but u can make it that sensitive that it records all the time. It has a vertical timeline with a variable time, ie select timeline from 01:00 to 01:15 ot 1/1/05 to 15/1/05 etc etc. It then makes the relevant are in the timeline green if there are any events. and obviously clicking the relevant area jumps you to that time and starts playback. Its not perfect (IMHO) cos if you have no detection at that time it just gives a black scree. I woudl prefer a shot taken say every minute then the timleine could select the closest image.
Just an idea hope its understandable.
Just for the record i quite like how it is. its different but you can jump anywhere you want really especialyy if you genertae avideo
Good to see the feed back guys.
We have worked on that interface and it is actually very powerful as it does allow the users very easy access to all the events.
That big change that is coming soon is the display of ALL system events - meaning if we have external I/O including C-Bus or other third party systems connected we will include the events that they provide so that the user can see the true step by step event log.
This should include the ability to act as a slide view bar so that if you don't use the selected bar to generate video files or pseudo video views you will be able to scoll or move a single frame / image or event at a time left or right on the timeline and see the image or event dat either above or on the side of the timeline.
Still being worked on but it is the goal.
I am looking at how we can release this code to the community but have to deal with the next lvl of management on that issue ofcourse...
Still I would like your feedback.
Regards,
Deano
We have worked on that interface and it is actually very powerful as it does allow the users very easy access to all the events.
That big change that is coming soon is the display of ALL system events - meaning if we have external I/O including C-Bus or other third party systems connected we will include the events that they provide so that the user can see the true step by step event log.
This should include the ability to act as a slide view bar so that if you don't use the selected bar to generate video files or pseudo video views you will be able to scoll or move a single frame / image or event at a time left or right on the timeline and see the image or event dat either above or on the side of the timeline.
Still being worked on but it is the goal.
I am looking at how we can release this code to the community but have to deal with the next lvl of management on that issue ofcourse...
Still I would like your feedback.
Regards,
Deano
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I have done an implementation of a new imeline based event navigator. Hopefully this is the sort of thing people are after, already I've started using it almost exclusively, and you know what a conservative SOB I am so it must have something going for it.
Attached is a screenshot of an example screen.
Passing your mouse over an event bar or activity will load an image from that event so it's really easy to flick through a sequence of events.
I was going to make a patch available for anyone who wants to try it out but if there is demand I may as well do a quick release with just this feature and a couple of bugfixes in it. All opinions welcome.
Phil
Attached is a screenshot of an example screen.
Passing your mouse over an event bar or activity will load an image from that event so it's really easy to flick through a sequence of events.
I was going to make a patch available for anyone who wants to try it out but if there is demand I may as well do a quick release with just this feature and a couple of bugfixes in it. All opinions welcome.
Phil
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dont worry about ie. I always use mozilla as its a lot better with zm. One issue with firefox though, maybe it needs a seperate thread, is it keeps asking to download a plugin (quicktime) and if its installed quicktime keeps opening and showing select connection speed.
From a normal users point of view i prefer having a 'seperate' program for their cctv access as typing url's or looking in their faborites seems to confuse them. mind you does walking and breathing, together at the same time.
Users (god help me)
James
**edit would it be easier for you just to support certain features in firefox or ie just one not both? As i remeber form days old that certain tricks are used in ie that buggers evry other browser up, so is it feasible to support both browsers fully?
From a normal users point of view i prefer having a 'seperate' program for their cctv access as typing url's or looking in their faborites seems to confuse them. mind you does walking and breathing, together at the same time.
Users (god help me)
James
**edit would it be easier for you just to support certain features in firefox or ie just one not both? As i remeber form days old that certain tricks are used in ie that buggers evry other browser up, so is it feasible to support both browsers fully?