how to mak work Sony SNC-VL10P

alexus · Post by **alexus** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 2:26 am

Hey all just installed ZM, and tryed it with local capture card, works fine, but when i got to my sony IP camera I got stuck... I have no idea how t make it work... The model is SNC-VL10P, i know it supports 3 modes, video server broad cust, active x and java pluging.
Can some one help me a bit? I searched the forum but no luck so far...

Thanks for help!

Post by **cordel** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 2:32 am

Do you have this cam hooked up to the internet so we can view it?
I can usualy figure out the path from firefox if it is compatable.

alexus · Post by **alexus** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 2:33 am

well let me see if i can route trafic to the cam
( i have to many fire walls but i think i can get it on the net)

alexus · Post by **alexus** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 2:56 am

ok ive added it before primary firewall
here is the link

http://xx.xxx.xxx.xxx:xxxx

Post by **cordel** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 3:02 am

One reason you not find any info here is it is not compatable. It requires activex for one thing and the other is it does not produce jpeg files only Wavelet or BMP.
This has no way to work with ZM according to the FAQ that is built into the camera.

http://www.sony.com.au/business/catalog ... d=SNCVL10P#
Shows that this camera is not capable of producing mjpeg or jpeg as required by ZM.

alexus · Post by **alexus** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 3:35 am

damn im fealing pissed off

is there any way to install encoder for that format too zm?

alexus · Post by **alexus** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 4:17 am

ok im back in here
new version of ffmpeg (snow) suports wavelets convertion to mjpeg i downloaded the comand line tool but it has to many parameters for me to test it out, does any one have any idea how to use it?

I think It would be nice if my sony camera could work with zm

Post by **cordel** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 7:28 am

It might be possible if you can find a way to create a jpeg file. Otherwise it would take some significant work to the capture damon to get this to work. Also it's likely to be patent infringed. Since I don't have access to one of these cameras, there is really nothing we can do. Also if it's patent infringed it likely we will not support it.

alexus · Post by **alexus** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 4:25 pm

well if build in ffshow then it should not be patemt infrengment. thats is covered under provision of DMCA.

as to trying to get jpeg file, um ok let me try to do something on windows if i get something I post here (sorry my linux knowlage is not to good to play around [hm i wonder how i managed to write 2 prpojects under linux?])

alexus · Post by **alexus** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 5:49 pm

I found this codec for linux, but I'm not as good in linux
can some one try it, if its good enough to transform wavelets?

http://www.daimi.au.dk/~poe/dwithome.html

Post by **cordel** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 6:59 pm

Again, ZM would have to be programed to use this, the capture process would have to be rewritten so it's not as simple as throwing a codec at it and it works. Also research would need to be done to make sure that the codec will use the same logarithm as the camera (there are several) otherwise it may not even work. Of course it would need the ability to support other cameras that might use this format as well as it would be pointless to put all the effort in to make one camera model function.

Lee Sharp · Post by **Lee Sharp** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 12:56 am

cordel wrote:Again, ZM would have to be programed to use this, the capture process would have to be rewritten so it's not as simple as throwing a codec at it and it works. Also research would need to be done to make sure that the codec will use the same logarithm as the camera (there are several) otherwise it may not even work. Of course it would need the ability to support other cameras that might use this format as well as it would be pointless to put all the effort in to make one camera model function.

Perhaps not. Run a cron job every second, pulling the image, and saving as a jpeg in a single spot, overwriting each time. Then have ZM poll that spot at 2fps, and you will get about 2 of each frame. Modify the frame rates to fit how fast this thing can work. This is going to cause some significant load. You may need a web server to aggregate them cams, and than have ZM poll that server.

alexus · Post by **alexus** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 1:04 am

Oh look m0n0 guys here

"run job every second" - thas kinda konna eat 100% of cpu on any machine....

well i guess then i have to get rid of my Sony camera and buy something cheap. Although from what I just learned reading things about wavelets, thet are better in terms of quolity and compression compare tto mjpeg, because mjpg is basicaly work around for not paying patent license for mpeg

Post by **cordel** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 2:25 am

I'd love to see any of those here, but the problem is the $6k or more for the license for each codec, We're lucky to see enough money in this project to pay the electricity for the server each month

As it is with ffmpeg being in jeopardy, safe for the moment but you never know if it might get yanked for the same patent issues. As it stands ZM can run on it's own with no worries of the other codecs so no matter what happens we can move on and ZM will be here since we have no dependency on any patent infringed code.
If ffmpeg should ever be pulled, ZM will build fine without it, so we will always be here and we never have to worry about suits against us

alexus · Post by **alexus** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 2:29 am

well since im doing calling and RnD this summer, i can either try to get you the licence waiveir or I can get u some funds (i like the first one, so i keep money for myself

)

Just tell me which codec do u wanna use.