Strange "not in sync" frames

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Strange "not in sync" frames

Post by x-fede »

Hi,

Sometimes I've weird events, with frames in the wrong position.
It looks like some frame is missed and then saved too late.
It's hard to explain in proper english, but I've a sample mpeg.

http://www.virgolanet.net/Event-26.mpg

You can see the problem when I jump (poor performance, I know...!), around the half of the file.

thanks
Fede
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Post by djsb »

please see the previous post.. i've reported the same with a little more detail...
See if you have the same problem...
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Post by x-fede »

In my case, even inside one frame there are "mixed frames".
Look at this one:

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It looks like two frames have been mixed: one with the car and one without (look carefully on the left, you can see the little wall throu the car...!)
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Post by lazyleopard »

What resolution are you using? What sort of frame-rate? How many separate inputs on the one chip?

It looks rather like a severe case of one bttv chip trying to cope with multiple inputs. When you switch from one input to the next it takes a finite time to settle down. If you're using a resolution that requites an interlaced frame then the problem's magnified.
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Post by zoneminder »

Do you have more than one camera on the same device?

Phil,

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Post by lazyleopard »

...and how long is the cable run from the camera to the video card, and is the cable and the connectors on each end the right impedance? Some of the image-doubling (a subsidiary problem, not the main one) may be down to an echo on the cable, which may be down to a poor connector at one end or the other....
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Post by x-fede »

only one camera per chip/input.

the cable is very long, and that's the cause of the bad video quality (the "double" edges), but still the main problem I'm trying to fix is the fact that frames are out of sync... please look at the mpeg video in my previous message: it's better than the still image to understand the problem.

I THINK it could be a buffer-ring problem.. I'll do some tests changing the value.

anyway, I'm using 352x288, 24bit with a spectra8 board.
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Post by zoneminder »

I've had a look at the MPEG above and I can't really see what it is that we're trying to find. It looks like it's only two frames or so and the first is blocky (by compression) and the second looks ok. I don't see any out of sync'ness on it.

Am I missing something?

Phil,
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Post by x-fede »

Look at this:
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it's a mix between two frames: one when I was still walking and one while I was jumping (about a couple of seconds later). The problem is also in the frame (images) on the server, not just in the mpg file.

I hope I'll be able to do some more tests on Sunday.
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Post by x-fede »

New examples. Problem still not solved :(

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Video is here: http://www.virgolanet.net/Event-320.mpg
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Post by Carbide_tipped »

Try a lower res. like 320x240. I had the same problem.
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