Reason why you shouldnt use cameras with built in IR emitter

jameswilson · Post by **jameswilson** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 4:36 pm

I thought id test one and this has been on the fron of my house for about 2 yrs now. I will never fit a combined IR and camera again. Fortunatly i have always advised against professionally but thought id try one due to the cost savings

ptast · Post by **ptast** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 11:22 pm

James,

I have seen similar on my cams when I have made "homebrew IR illuminators". If possible, try to "point" the LEDs more away from the camera lens.

Most likely, your LEDs are shining too close the "eye".

jameswilson · Post by **jameswilson** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 11:33 pm

its a bullet cam mate with built in ir leds. I always avoided them as cheap and nasty, but thought id give one a go.... wish i hadnt. If i could move the emitter away from the cam so the spiders, moths and other wildlife arnt attracted to it... i really would lol

Lee Sharp · Post by **Lee Sharp** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 5:07 am

Depends on the region. Here in Houston it is no problem. I am talking about experience from hundreds of cameras on my types of DVRs...

jameswilson · Post by **jameswilson** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 6:53 am

you might be right, but in the UK i think they are useless

Flash_ · Post by **Flash_** » Sat Jul 26, 2008 5:22 am

I found the inbuilt ir cluster LED's on the Gadspot to be utterly useless, creating so much lens flare nothing could be seen other than a white blur.

overly · Post by **overly** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 9:18 pm

I never thought about it before your post, but I get alot of moths and spiders attracted to the built-in IR in my camera. Apparently they must "see" (or feel) the IR spectrum.

coke · Post by **coke** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 9:38 pm

Perhaps place a brighter IR emitter somewhere nearby, connected the to to the equivalent of a fly zapper.

jameswilson · Post by **jameswilson** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 10:57 pm

like i said built in ir is useless IMO

Lee Sharp · Post by **Lee Sharp** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 5:32 pm

I have a few hundred cameras that disagree.

How about test small, or pay for local experience? Or just ebay stuff and pay a Lot for local experience.

jameswilson · Post by **jameswilson** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 9:34 pm

Well it dont work at my house, and we have to space the ir emitters away from cams normally just cos of the moths

Lee Sharp · Post by **Lee Sharp** » Sat Aug 02, 2008 7:50 am

No doubt. That is why Local experience pays off!

coke · Post by **coke** » Tue Aug 05, 2008 4:24 pm

That's why I'm thinking slightly distant IR with a bug zapper.

timcraig · Post by **timcraig** » Wed Aug 06, 2008 5:59 pm

I get alot of spiders at my house but they don't seem to be attracted to the IR's of my nightvision cameras at all.

It's very rare to see them crawl in front of my cameras. Once in awhile their spiderwebs do get in front of my camera. During they day time you don't see the webs but in night-vision mode they are visible . The webs don't block the view of the camera but they do set off the motion detection. When this happens I take a broom and brush the area around my camera.

jameswilson · Post by **jameswilson** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:34 am

Must just be uk spiders then. Maybe the IR on my cams are more visible. I dont think the spider can see it, well i have no idea, but the bugs its catching can so thats the reason. I have some great vids of spiders, moths, rain on webs etc. Cant see much through it and i need to clean it every 2 weeks. Im gonna take it down soon!