I am not trying to do much special with it, more just trying to get the silly system to alarm when there is movement in the zone (Say me out in the hall with the laptop waving and jumping in the area that is the active zone for two minutes) and nothing triggers, so I am attempting to figure out what is wrong or what I messed up with this. I duplicated a setting of a known working camera that triggered, but am not having luck. Even the default seems not to capture on this one camera. I have also deleted the camera before and tried to restart it.
I am rather stumped at what I am doing wrong. I had spent the last two weeks tweaking and tuning the filter, even setting it to defaults and nothing happened. (The biggest portion of the pain with this view is the stairs in the frames catch reflection of the cars on the street and could trigger off that.) Though I have seen it catch random patches of nothing.
The Monitoring of the camera online is great, I just wish I could get the other features to work.
Fun with old hardware
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Yeah, I had been working off most of that the past few weeks, and haven't gotten much farther. Matter of fact the only time an event is created is when I force an alarm. Other than that the diag images look like this:
https://www.tsukinokage.net:8886/zm-dia ... g-40-1.jpg
So it is seeing something, but apparently not enough for even the most sensitive filters. I get the same image when I am looking like a fool and jumping up and down in front of the camera.
I am playing with setting it to blobbed pixels and tuned the min's to less than 20 pixels to see if I can get anything from it.
My next step if this don't work, is to tune it down to 2 and 1 as the min area's. I have to say though, being able to use this silly thing to check for packages left at my apartment door (or the dreaded delivery exception notices) is rather nice. Since this is the first time to tune this silly camera I expect to have issues, but man this drives me nuts. I just want to know if there is a way to make the pixel maps in there show movement a bit more.
Thanks in advance for your time and sorry for sounding like a fool.
https://www.tsukinokage.net:8886/zm-dia ... g-40-1.jpg
So it is seeing something, but apparently not enough for even the most sensitive filters. I get the same image when I am looking like a fool and jumping up and down in front of the camera.
I am playing with setting it to blobbed pixels and tuned the min's to less than 20 pixels to see if I can get anything from it.
My next step if this don't work, is to tune it down to 2 and 1 as the min area's. I have to say though, being able to use this silly thing to check for packages left at my apartment door (or the dreaded delivery exception notices) is rather nice. Since this is the first time to tune this silly camera I expect to have issues, but man this drives me nuts. I just want to know if there is a way to make the pixel maps in there show movement a bit more.
Thanks in advance for your time and sorry for sounding like a fool.
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Current settings are:
Thu Feb 14-12:02:14-root@Minazuki:20> zmu -m 20 -q
Id : 20
Name : Front_Door
Type : Local
Device : /dev/video0
Channel : 1
Format : 1
Width : 320
Height : 240
Palette : 3
Colours : 3
Event Prefix : Event-
Label Format : %%s - %m/%d/%y %H:%M:%S
Label Coord : 0,0
Image Buffer Count : 95
Warmup Count : 10
Pre Event Count : 20
Post Event Count : 20
Alarm Frame Count : 16
Section Length : 600
Maximum FPS : 0.00
Alarm Maximum FPS : 0.00
Reference Blend %ge : 10
Track Motion : 0
Function: 3 - Motion Detection
Zones : 1
Id : 40
Label : Front Door
Type: 1 - Active
Shape : 4 points
0: 0,0
1: 105,0
2: 319,239
3: 0,239
Alarm RGB : ff0000
Check Method: 1 - Alarmed Pixels
Min Pixel Threshold : 1
Max Pixel Threshold : 0
Min Alarm Pixels : 1
Max Alarm Pixels : 0
Filter Box : 3,3
Min Filter Pixels : 7
Max Filter Pixels : 0
Min Blob Pixels : 5
Max Blob Pixels : 0
Min Blobs : 1
Max Blobs : 0
Current 'diag' image is:
https://www.tsukinokage.net:8886/zm-diag/diag-40-1.jpg
That looks -->CLOSER<--- to what I expect to see in the Diag image, but I am not sure if it will work with my testing The bulk of the white area is where my zone covers across the image. The black area does not currently have an area covering it.
Thu Feb 14-12:02:14-root@Minazuki:20> zmu -m 20 -q
Id : 20
Name : Front_Door
Type : Local
Device : /dev/video0
Channel : 1
Format : 1
Width : 320
Height : 240
Palette : 3
Colours : 3
Event Prefix : Event-
Label Format : %%s - %m/%d/%y %H:%M:%S
Label Coord : 0,0
Image Buffer Count : 95
Warmup Count : 10
Pre Event Count : 20
Post Event Count : 20
Alarm Frame Count : 16
Section Length : 600
Maximum FPS : 0.00
Alarm Maximum FPS : 0.00
Reference Blend %ge : 10
Track Motion : 0
Function: 3 - Motion Detection
Zones : 1
Id : 40
Label : Front Door
Type: 1 - Active
Shape : 4 points
0: 0,0
1: 105,0
2: 319,239
3: 0,239
Alarm RGB : ff0000
Check Method: 1 - Alarmed Pixels
Min Pixel Threshold : 1
Max Pixel Threshold : 0
Min Alarm Pixels : 1
Max Alarm Pixels : 0
Filter Box : 3,3
Min Filter Pixels : 7
Max Filter Pixels : 0
Min Blob Pixels : 5
Max Blob Pixels : 0
Min Blobs : 1
Max Blobs : 0
Current 'diag' image is:
https://www.tsukinokage.net:8886/zm-diag/diag-40-1.jpg
That looks -->CLOSER<--- to what I expect to see in the Diag image, but I am not sure if it will work with my testing The bulk of the white area is where my zone covers across the image. The black area does not currently have an area covering it.
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Ok, so it has been a while since I updated this. After a while of working on the system, and various other ZM related projects in my home, I upgraded the system to fedora 9, and re-installed ZM from RPM. A few ditro related oddities solved and it is back up and running. I am testing and tweaking more now that the driver modes are stable on this version of O/s.
Problems I encontered with Fedora's ZM RPM: http/Apache looks for zms in /var/www/cgi-bin while the RPM drops it in /usr/libexec/zoneminder/cgi-bin/zms.
One other thing that solved quickly all my issues with the cam crashing, was increase the shared memory space from 32Meg to 1Gig.
I have small problems left to solve, one, the device is yellow/orange, not green, on the web page. From exp I have gleaned that this is due to a malfunction between ZM and my camera (induced by user error) and I am seeing this in my log:
12/17/08 11:17:53.192257 zmdc[14447].ERR ['zma -m 20' exited abnormally, exit status 11]
Though it doesn't sound good the system works. I am going to run it through debugging programs to see what I get from it, since I am sure it is my fault it is crashing there, but since that is all I get, makes it a challenge. I am not sure about the detection and recording, but, well it goes like that, since I haven't had time to jump up and down like a fool in front of the camera to see if it works.
If anyone wants information on the capture board that I am using (and have had issues with) I can get as much information on it as I can, including pictures, etc, and maybe some minor hardware information besides the main chipset (Memory, buffers, if it has ASICS, etc)
Problems I encontered with Fedora's ZM RPM: http/Apache looks for zms in /var/www/cgi-bin while the RPM drops it in /usr/libexec/zoneminder/cgi-bin/zms.
One other thing that solved quickly all my issues with the cam crashing, was increase the shared memory space from 32Meg to 1Gig.
I have small problems left to solve, one, the device is yellow/orange, not green, on the web page. From exp I have gleaned that this is due to a malfunction between ZM and my camera (induced by user error) and I am seeing this in my log:
12/17/08 11:17:53.192257 zmdc[14447].ERR ['zma -m 20' exited abnormally, exit status 11]
Though it doesn't sound good the system works. I am going to run it through debugging programs to see what I get from it, since I am sure it is my fault it is crashing there, but since that is all I get, makes it a challenge. I am not sure about the detection and recording, but, well it goes like that, since I haven't had time to jump up and down like a fool in front of the camera to see if it works.
If anyone wants information on the capture board that I am using (and have had issues with) I can get as much information on it as I can, including pictures, etc, and maybe some minor hardware information besides the main chipset (Memory, buffers, if it has ASICS, etc)
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Solved (mostly)
Ok, after a lot of research on the system, and a lot of working with the LiveCD, I have figured that it is the Operating system itself that I am using. Fedrora on this hardware combination just doesn't play well. This isn't the first "Doesn't play well with others" issue I have run into with Fedora (kernel serial drivers not properly allowing talk to an UPS being one) so I am now working on a different solution for this.
The Live CD works (almost) perfectly, save when too much is going on, it has an I/O hang (due to RAMDISK issues that I know will clear up when I play with installing it as a disk based, instead of a CD based O/s, to continue testing and using this)
Thanks for any and all help that this thread has provided.
The Live CD works (almost) perfectly, save when too much is going on, it has an I/O hang (due to RAMDISK issues that I know will clear up when I play with installing it as a disk based, instead of a CD based O/s, to continue testing and using this)
Thanks for any and all help that this thread has provided.