For the i386, I'm thinking of rebuilding everything for the i686 arch as more that not, I'm sure most everyone is running at least a PII.
i aggree to
also on a light note
with new year coming
WHATS A PII my memory only goes back to 97
only joking just thought about the 2,500 grand start of the art 286 with ega screen i bought
with a state of the art 24 pin dot matrix printer without optional 900 dollar 2.400 bps modem and wait for 100 more i could upgrade from 1 to 2 meg
James wrote:If there is no desktop at all, wont people have problems on first time installes etc. Or does x give a basic desktop
The instuctions I have layed out have always been through the CLI. I have already made some helper scripts (previous post above) that simplify the process and a help screen that can be accesed by typing help-zm. Using and trouble shooting zm pretty much requires that you know how to get around using the CLI anyways. Thats a must learn as you well know by now. I left X available since your planning on attemting porting your app over. It will need X but not KDE or Gnome (the liter the better) which, by the way they are compiled, install tons of things that we would never use anyway and some like cups that are set to start at boot that do nothing but occupy memory.
Also should some one want a desktop, they could enable the fedora repos and do yum --enablerepo=base --enablerepo=updates-released installgroup gnome-desktop (I think that the correct group name yum grouplist gives you the available options). So it's not like you can't have it. Fedora has avalable KDE, Gnome, and XFCE. This would allow people to have a choice. TVtime and xawtv will both run with just X installed as well so I'm not hendering the ability to trouble shoot. Just conservation of CD realestate and download times.
martymoose wrote:
only joking just thought about the 2,500 grand start of the art 286 with ega screen i bought
with a state of the art 24 pin dot matrix printer without optional 900 dollar 2.400 bps modem and wait for 100 more i could upgrade from 1 to 2 meg
oh the good old days
I remember those days. Win3.0 DOS 4.0. My first machine was an 8088 or Z80 I don't remember which. cassette drive and I had bought a floppy controller and a 5 1/4 drive for it. Everyone thought I was the computer guru since I was only 16 at the time. The only thing I had to really get creative on was the Trash 80 produced so much noise, I had to make a RF shield ( Piece of cardboard with aluminum foil glued to it ). Not bad since it was free from a scientist at one of the labs that was local to me at the time.
Needless to say, I don't miss line numbers or DOS
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well it was xawtv and tvtime that i was thinking off.
btw i do most things with webmin, still not a cli man but i do a bit with the cli just not that much lol.
on the porting front i dont think i can port it over as it needs .net 2. Mono seems a bit away from this yet.
I am trying to write it in gambas as that seems my highest chance of success. Im aiming towards a mouse only interface and multihead through x. That way we can have a couple of gfx cards with tv outs and use old style composite monitors. Problem is, all the tricks i know for visual studio, i know non (yet) for gambas, and i am not even close to getting an image displayed. That is why i have started the ppc project as alot of .net2 stuff is not in the compact framework so hopefully i will learn how to do it. Plus there is tonnes of info for vs.net. next to none for gambas.
the funny thing is all the overpaid it managers with uni degrees
dont know anything at all about dos
our so called it manager had a problem with the pcs at work
his main job is it, and he talks down to us, as he thinks he is the ducks guts guru of it
well i am just a dumb truck driver in his eyes
well he has some respect now and egg on his face when i command lined the fix in the dos prompt
the look was PRICELESS
and i had to add, "i was playing with dos when you went out with daddy and came home with mommy"
since then i get a few calls from it saying how do i do this
from the small amount i have picked up in the last 4 months or so the cli is more powerful the the gui in linux. Windows is a different animal but the command pompt isnt as powerful here. Ms did a great job on me, as they totally removed me from the command line and i did everything gui. Linux doesnt work this way and i am picking up commands.
Cordel im assuming then these new distros will just boot to a text console. The only thing i would ask is for a howto on setting the ip details cos i use the gui for this now. i only say that cos once its on the network, or moved to another network i can use webmin for everything.
James wrote:The only thing i would ask is for a howto on setting the ip details cos i use the gui for this now. i only say that cos once its on the network, or moved to another network i can use webmin for everything.
Thats where the help scripts come in. Already covered my friend help-zm will get you through it.
Corey, Im using your wonderful distro again, but as a desktop too. I see that all the updates come from you but can i change it so they come from redhat again. Im not currently running zm on this machine but would like to. I inderstand that if i update too much then zm may fail, but i need certain things to be updated to fix issues with other things
can i get that update manager thing to do it, i have enabled all the repos in the yum conf but it still only checks your server, then fails dur to dependancies. Im assuming if i enable the normal ones this will go away?
You don't want to enable all the repos in that directory as one or two are package testing repos. So you should not set enable in fedora-updates-testing.repo. What is it your trying to install thats failing?
kdebase and no i didnt enable the testing repos. Im having a problem with an ide im using to develop this viewer for linux. AN i want to make sure my fc3 is fully upto date before i look elsewhere.
Okay, for your case here is what you should do. To accompish this though the CLI:
yum --disablerepo=ctu-base --disablerepo=ctu-updates-released --enablerepo=base --enablerepo=updates-released install kdebase
If you want, PM me a tele or get me via MSNM and I can walk you though what ever you need.
Cheers,
Corey
PS Sorry I just noticed a typo on the previous post for using yum. This one is correct.
). Not bad since it was free from a scientist at one of the labs that was local to me at the time.