Newbie help required on install

Airwolf · Post by **Airwolf** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 7:54 am

Hi everyone, came across ZM after limited success using windoze based systems. I am new to linux so thought the LiveCD version would be a good start. I have installed Mandriva special edition 10 .1 to a seperate disk and am dual booting....for now at least.

When i have run liveCD versions of distro's everything runs from the CD.

Q. does LiveCD of ZM do this?

Q. Is there a way of installing to the new linux drive, if so do i need the Mandriva SE or would the liveCD put the OS on to the drive as well

Hope i am making sense!

thanks

jameswilson · Post by **jameswilson** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:46 am

i did this to mate.
Q1 Yes live cd will run from the cd and will be in a default setting. You could change it to record to your hard drive but when you rebooted that info would be lost.
Q2 If you have the live cd when it boots you have a yellow shortcut on the desktop marked install or setup zoneminder. Do this to your new drive (you will need to tell livecd install where to put the boot loader) then restart and you should be away.

James

Airwolf · Post by **Airwolf** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 10:48 am

thanks James

Here is where my lack of Linux knowledge comes in..... I ran the installer, sorted out the boot manager etc. and rebooted to the Mandrake desktop. There does not appear to be a ZM icon on the desktop or item in the menu etc. what am i missing?

rdmelin · Post by **rdmelin** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 2:09 pm

ZM uses a web browser interface. The ZM console is bookmarked on the toolbar of the default Firefox browser.

Airwolf · Post by **Airwolf** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 3:17 pm

I eventually figured it out and found the web interface and bookmark. Thanks anyway.

When i try and start ZM i get an error message along the lines of

"Connection refused....error trying to contact localhost" - any ideas?

Also, i installed liveCD over a mandrake 10.x SE, reformatting the dedicated drive. I get errors when tring to read the windows drive, CDROM, my USB pen drive or USB WLAN, do not work.

Are there items missing from this version?

Is is best to install the SE edition again and try and install MySQL, Apache, etc.?

Looking for quickest way to get going

jameswilson · Post by **jameswilson** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 7:06 pm

if you load a browser and enter http://127.0.0.1/zm/
what do you get then?

rdmelin · Post by **rdmelin** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 7:55 pm

Installing from the livecd is by far the fastest way to get up and running. Well actually just booting the CD is "up and running."

If working as advertized, when booted up ZM is running, does not need to be started. Apache is running, and if you see the ZM console when you click the bookmark link you are connected to "localhost".

So if the above does not describe what you experienced then something went wrong with your installation. Check that the CD md5sum matches the one on the download page. If it does run the installation again and watch for error messages. Or just boot up the CD and explore ZM while running from the CD.

The problems reading the windows drive, usb drive, and CDROM indicate either a corrupt installation or a hardware incompatability. The USB WLAN will probably need additional configuration if it is supported by linux at all. If you can resolve the other ussues by reinstalling, and need help with the WLAN, post more info about it here.

Best regards,

Ross

Post by **cordel** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:48 pm

Hey Ross,
A good idea for your live CD would be to check for config files on a USB drive first then fall back to the default stuff if it don't exist. Just a thought.
Cheers,
Cordel

Airwolf · Post by **Airwolf** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 1:24 pm

thanks for the tips. Running from the LiveCD i get the ZM console and my USB, CD ROM, Windows drive all work ok.

When i run the installer i cannot reboot (dual boot systems with XP) the boot screen offers:

Linux
Linux-nonfb
failsafe
windows

I can boot windows OK, but if i select a linux option the system freezes completely.

if i choose linux-nonfb or failsafe i get:

"EBDA is big, kernal setup stack overlaps LILO second stage"

Windows and linux are on completely seperate drives (hda for XP, hdb for linux) i believe i selected the correct boot options

thanks for any advice

jameswilson · Post by **jameswilson** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 1:28 pm

sorry mate i cant help you i have never dualbooted before not even windows boxes. There is a topic on here somewhere that explains how to make your own boot cd, so maybe you could get the system how you like, make a boot cd and then not need dual booting. Another way to do it would be to change the hard drive order in your bios, On my ystem i can change which hard drive it boots from. Sorry all i can think off myself, BTW i know very little about linux if it wasnt for the live cd id still be trying to get zm 1.21.0 to work lol

james

Airwolf · Post by **Airwolf** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 1:51 pm

took another look at the install notes and realised i had to press "install" at the partition/ boot stage.

Currently re-installing again and will advise how i get on
thanks

jameswilson · Post by **jameswilson** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 2:08 pm

ah yes rtfm lol

Airwolf · Post by **Airwolf** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 2:18 pm

well even after rtfm, i still get the same problem. System freezes on selecting any linux option. It has to do with the boot partition etc.

Will try a few more things - thanks

Post by **cordel** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 2:29 pm

If you give it some time Ross or someone else that has some experince at this sort of issue will pipe in.
Another option you could try is I could mail you a FC3 Based CD that uses the anaconda installer. That might work if you can't get this going.
Regards,
Cordel

rdmelin · Post by **rdmelin** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 4:41 am

"EBDA is big, kernal setup stack overlaps LILO second stage"

This is a new one on me. I googled it and found a few refs but no solutions. So I'm guessing here.

Check that your partitions are big enough, something close to the suggestions in the installer page on the CD.

If that doesn't help, I would try physically switching the linux drive to master (hda) and reinstall. I believe your windows installation will still work this way, booted by the linux boot loader. If not you can switch it back. As always be sure any important data is backed up before you try this.

Nothing beats dogged persistance

Ross